Lily
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Post by Lily on Sept 4, 2011 16:02:02 GMT -5
How do you feel about it? It sprung onto the scene just a few decades ago. Has it's presence been a positive or negative influence on society as a whole? Who sets the rules that makes a word okay today, and then verboten tomorrow? There is no governing body in the PC camp who is answerable to questions such as these. In fact, there is no PC camp at all in the broadest sense of the term. Just an ad hoc group of disparate, rather sinister forces that lean towards socialism and have their own personal agendas. They have, unfortunately, been able to insinuate their manifesto into law in many jurisdictions, and innocent people have been persecuted as a result. We have the weak-kneed, self-serving politicians to thank for that one. Fortunately the tide has been turning for a while. And we see politicians in power today reversing the invidious PC policies of their predecessors. The government in Britain is a case in point. Bravo! In my view, censorship of any kind is always unacceptable. However, if it applies the same rules for everyone, it's at least palpably fair. PC is not. It is blatantly biased against one group of people. The group, ironically enough, which shells out the cash, which makes its very existence possible. Okay, now I'll get down off my soap box.  ourcivilisation.com/pc.htm |
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Post by jacklawson on Sept 4, 2011 16:55:13 GMT -5
Pc draws like a magnet every social misfit, malcontent and lame duck...all jumping onto the victim bandwagon looking for handouts..
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Post by Lily on Sept 4, 2011 21:21:57 GMT -5
PC is like McCarthyism. The only difference being that McCarthy went after "communists." PC goes after "racists." And there's questions now in Canada about just how legal those "human rights tribunals" are. They're like star chambers operating on the fringes of the law, but with none of the checks and balances. They are sinister kangaroo courts that are a direct contradiction of democracy and threaten its very existence. PC is like the emperor, it isn't wearing any clothes. And if there weren't so many sheeple, it would never have even got off the ground in the first place. "Hey Mom, he isn't wearing any clothes." Ah for that refreshing little voice of common sense, decency and reason. But don't despair, the wheels are in motion which will scrap PC and consign it to where it belongs, the trash can of human history. But what really frosts me is those who prattle on about human rights violations in countries like China! ;D Hey, haven't they ever heard about cleaning up their own backyards before pointing the finger at others? www.theinterim.com/2008/feb/12humanrights.htmlwww.politicsforum.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=131034humanrightscommissions.ca/ |
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Post by dervish on Sept 5, 2011 11:41:37 GMT -5
Great links. Thank our lucky stars this scary stuff is on its way out. Folks have been terrorized and robbed of freedom of speech for long enough. Should never of happened at all.
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Post by raemorgan on Sept 5, 2011 14:01:55 GMT -5
PC is like everything else it has good and bad points. I did like the affirmative action for without it women and minorities would still be locked out.
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Post by BlueLotus on Sept 6, 2011 14:17:05 GMT -5
Pc draws like a magnet every social misfit, malcontent and lame duck...all jumping onto the victim bandwagon looking for handouts.. I respectfully disagree  Not all PC types are low income, well-fare mamma's who want you to take care of "us". PC means many things to many people. To me it means thinking before one acts... will telling a Gay joke offend the person next to me, and the person I am talking to? Will my actions come off as raciest? etc etc IMHO being PC is just a stop and check your actions/wording that takes only two or three seconds. Example of such occasions are while walking down the street talking on the phone. It is NOT OK to drop the F bomb here in case small children are around. Nor is it OK to talk about sex etc because well: A) it is nasty And B) no one cares/wants to hear about it. It is not OK to trash talk one community or another for any reason there are good and bad in all groups. Others take it to an extreme Drunk @ work and check into rehab multiple times = get to keep your job. On crack and spitting out kids = public assistance. But then again like I said not all on public assistance are losers... Some of the best people I know were at one point in time on assistance, my mother for example divorced after 17 years of abuse with 3 kids to try and feed. Assistance allowed her to feed us while she held a full time job that paid the rent. JKR was on public assistance at one point as well... Kindest regards, Been there and done that. |
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Post by bubblegum91 on Sept 18, 2011 3:46:16 GMT -5
Growing up in a very PC culture I feel, while it does has benefits, it can sometimes go too far.
I don't like censorship no matter how vile the speech may be.
For example a school teacher changed the lyrics to an old poem taught in school. It is called "The kookaburra sits in the old gum tree." He changed the lyrics from "How gay your life must be" gay used in the context of happy. To "how happy your life must be." There were confused looks and even the gay community were left scratching their heads.
Another is The Rocky Horror Picture Show. It is said that it is very offensive to those who identify as Transgendered and Transvestites. Which is ironic because if I hadn't grown up on that movie I probably would have taken longer to accept people who identify transgendered and or transvestites.
Also as a "social misfit" (what the hell does that even mean? and who dictates who is and isn't?) I resent the monicker that I am drawn to be called a "victim." There are people who do that, I agree, but not everyone who is a "misfit" does. And there are people who actually are victims and need said handouts. Just my opinion.
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Post by spookwriter on Dec 9, 2011 13:52:58 GMT -5
To those who are in favor of PC in it's many forms: Go home and decorate your Holiday Tree on December 25th.
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Post by jacklawson on Dec 9, 2011 16:20:38 GMT -5
To those who are in favor of PC in it's many forms: Go home and decorate your Holiday Tree on December 25th. Yeah and the way things are going Merry Christmas could soon be viewed as hate speech.. you can be sure the political correctness grinches are working on it. |
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Post by bubblegum91 on Dec 10, 2011 2:36:18 GMT -5
Wow, really? "Merry Christmas" as hate speech is overreacting a little bit. Just because not everyone celebrates Christmas, doesn't mean that you aren't entitled to celebrate it. There are some who get their panties in a twist over "Merry Christmas" I, personally, don't see the big deal.
Are these "PC grinches" also going to classify "happy Kwanza" or "Happy Hanukkah" as hate speech as well?
If not, then Merry Christmas is safe. And don't give me the Christians are persecuted line, because Christians are a majority.
Just sayin.
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Post by spookwriter on Dec 10, 2011 15:24:23 GMT -5
Have you ever watched 'Fox News?' There are plenty of instances where Christmas is already under attack! From not allowing Nativity scenes on courthouse lawns (Division of Church and State!) to some state governor who is calling the Christmas tree in the state rotunda a 'Holiday Tree.' I'm not making this up! I'm in favor of anyone who wants to celebrate their religion as they wish, but they should sure as hell leave the rest of us alone. And I'm an atheist!!!
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Post by bubblegum91 on Dec 10, 2011 21:14:20 GMT -5
I'm Australian, so no Fox News for me. I have seen people comment on the "lack of validity" that Fox News has. I can't say anything on the subject, as I have only seen a few moments of the show on youtube. I will, however, say it doesn't look all that truthful. And that a few of the presenters seem to take things out of context. But that's media for you. Everything is blown out of proportion.
Note. I am in no way attacking Fox News or it's supporters, merely stating that I, personally, wouldn't completely trust it.
I will ask how is calling a Christmas Tree a "Holiday Tree" attacking Christians?
The tree as a decoration thing can trace it's origins back to Northern Germany, modern day Latvia and Estonia during the 15th century as a way to celebrate the holiday.
You don't have to erect a tree or exchange gifts to celebrate Christmas. These traditions have evolved through time.
Yes, they can be used as symbol for the Lord Christ, but the over commercialization by the greedy companies out to make a quick buck, detracts from the Holy symbolism associated with it. I see that as a bigger insult to Christians.
And I'm not a Christian!
Also, forgive me as I do not know about American laws, but aren't courthouses Government Property? Wouldn't that be a breach of your separation of State and Religion law as the Government is not allowed to celebrate one religion over another? It would be different if they told them not to erect a nativity scene on Private Property. At least that is my understanding of your laws. Again, no idea, just asking.
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Post by spookwriter on Dec 10, 2011 21:49:09 GMT -5
Fox news is the only TV media in this country that doesn't lean so far left that it can hardly stay upright. This has slowly happened over the last few years. This country was founded on the idea of freedom of religion and separation of church and state insofar as the state cannot dictate church membership as was done in England earlier. But since, among other things, the words 'In God We Trust' is printed on all of our money, not to mention being in evidence on a lot of government buildings, there is a lot of PC going on due to several radical, left-wing organizations in the U.S.A.
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Post by bubblegum91 on Dec 10, 2011 22:10:02 GMT -5
Umm, ok? I never attacked Fox News, just stated that they seem to take some things out of context, which all media does most of the time. I don't live in America, so you'll have to excuse my ignorance of your laws and policies.
I'm generally curious about the instances of "attacking Christians" as I don't understand how they can be construed as attacks. Jesus was all about inclusiveness and compassion and turning the other cheek. At least the Jesus I was taught.
Not trying to start a debate about Jesus or anything.
I'll never understand America's constant Left vs Right deal. Then again, I don't have alot of knowledge pertaining to your politics.
And didn't you guys print the "In God we trust" on your money during the 1940's or 50's. Something about being patriotic and the communists?
And I thought America was secular? What does a message about God on your money have to do with your laws? About your constitution? Doesn't your constitution state and I paraphrase here : Neither a state nor the federal government can set up a church. Neither can pass laws which aid one religion, aid all religions, or prefer one religion over another. Neither can force nor influence a person to go to or to remain away from church against his will or force him to profess a belief or disbelief in any religion. No person can be punished for entertaining or professing religious beliefs or disbeliefs, for church attendance or non-attendance. No tax in any amount, large or small, can be levied to support any religious activities or institutions, whatever they may be called, or whatever form they may adopt to teach or practice religion. Neither a state nor the Federal Government can, openly or secretly, participate in the affairs of any religious organizations or groups and vice versa.
Sorry if I come off as antagonistic, I don't mean to be.
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Post by bubblegum91 on Dec 10, 2011 22:23:40 GMT -5
Ahh, here's the phrase I was looking for
"make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,"
According to the documents in you Constitution it seems to me that the Government isn't allowed to support any religion whatsoever. So I understand that some people might want to remove these items from your Government buildings.
Just a thought?
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