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Post by Richard on Jun 15, 2012 12:07:20 GMT -5
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Post by Lily on Jun 15, 2012 14:29:14 GMT -5
Not to wax pessimistic, but I believe a global conflict is right around the corner. We haven't had one of those in a while, so I'd say it's overdue.
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Post by Richard on Jun 18, 2012 13:22:32 GMT -5
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Post by Lily on Jun 18, 2012 14:34:05 GMT -5
A global conflict seems inevitable, and it may include the use of nuclear weapons. This in turn could trigger a natural disaster, which will all but finish the planet. Even if there isn't another world war, human activity has abused and degraded the planet to the extent that such an event is inevitable anyway, and sooner rather than later. Everything is interconnected to sustain life and achieve balance, and this natural order has been horribly disrupted. For instance, we need the micro-organisms in the oceans, which are now dying off in a cesspit of poisons, and the rain forests, which have been decimated wholesale, in order to breathe. What's the use of a booming economy, if the price tag is a lack of oxygen? In the major cities in Canada, there are more and more people wearing masks. Yep, just like we've seen them doing in China for years. Talking of which, Canada ships mega amounts of coal to China, so the factories there can continue to belt out the pollution that's making the wearing of masks necessary. Has anyone ever thought that all that oil in the ground was there for a reason, that it was part of the natural order of interconnection and balance? And now that it's practically gone... It's a nightmare, folks.
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Post by skyelar on Jun 18, 2012 17:36:35 GMT -5
It's hard to distinguish between the natural events and the natural change of climate and what has been caused by human activity.
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Post by Lily on Jun 18, 2012 22:44:50 GMT -5
It's hard to distinguish between the natural events and the natural change of climate and what has been caused by human activity. "What is Global Warming? Global warming is the unusually rapid increase in Earth's average surface temperature over the past century primarily due to the greenhouse gases released by people burning fossil fuels. How Does Today's Warming Compare to Past Climate Change? Earth has experienced climate change in the past without help from humanity. But the current climatic warming is occurring much more rapidly than past warming events. Why Do Scientists Think Current Warming Isn't Natural? In Earth's history before the Industrial Revolution, Earth's climate changed due to natural causes unrelated to human activity. These natural causes are still in play today, but their influence is too small or they occur too slowly to explain the rapid warming seen in recent decades." earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/GlobalWarming/
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Post by Lily on Jun 18, 2012 23:13:21 GMT -5
"With CO2 now being declared a danger to human health by the US EPA , its significant threat as a greenhouse gas is given added importance as the leading cause of climate change and rising temperatures on the planet. The concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere caused by the combustion of fossil fuels (coal, gas, & oil) has increased by around 40% since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution. As the level increases in the atmosphere and the oceans, we're getting further away from the solution. How much we can safely emit is in conflict with how very much more we produce - especially in North America. It's a problem that will be with us, and we need to understand why it's planet Earth's greatest threat. The planet will survive somehow, but will humanity? " www.thinkglobalgreen.org/CARBONDIOXIDE.html
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Post by Richard on Jun 19, 2012 10:36:43 GMT -5
It's hard to distinguish between the natural events and the natural change of climate and what has been caused by human activity. "What is Global Warming? Global warming is the unusually rapid increase in Earth's average surface temperature over the past century primarily due to the greenhouse gases released by people burning fossil fuels. How Does Today's Warming Compare to Past Climate Change? Earth has experienced climate change in the past without help from humanity. But the current climatic warming is occurring much more rapidly than past warming events. Why Do Scientists Think Current Warming Isn't Natural? In Earth's history before the Industrial Revolution, Earth's climate changed due to natural causes unrelated to human activity. These natural causes are still in play today, but their influence is too small or they occur too slowly to explain the rapid warming seen in recent decades." earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/GlobalWarming/"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." H.L. Menken Global warming Hoax: www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Global-Warming-Journal-Happer/2012/03/27/id/433983undebunked.wordpress.com/2009/11/23/emails-confirm-white-house-scientists-lied-about-global-warming/22,000 scientists disagree with U.N. global warming push: inpursuitofhappiness.wordpress.com/2008/02/12/22000-scientists-disagree-with-un-global-warming-push/Man has certainly polluted the earth. Man cannot change the weather through that pollution other than contributing to things like acid rain. Governments do, however, play with the atmosphere in their 'rain' projects, and with the use of HAARP. That is deliberate manipulation which has nothing to do with industrialization. In the 70's they were clamoring about an ice age. When that went to the wayside, they turned to global warming. If you want to see who is pushing that agenda, just examine who benefits from 'carbon credit' sales and other diversions of money. Money doesn't fix the climate. Men pollute, start wars, and do other terrible things. The planet maintains its own climate and there is little to nothing we can do to alter that. And, the polar caps are actually increasing: www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/watercooler/2010/jan/10/inconvenient-truth-ice-cap-growing/
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Post by thetourist on Jun 19, 2012 13:00:49 GMT -5
As a knife salesman and sharpener, I have a suggestion.
All wars must be fought with edged weapons only.
Not only would that be good for my business, but you could still kill all of the enemy combatants you wished. You'd just to it at a slower rate, allowing more time for peace talks.
There are other considerations. One, chopping someone up into teeny pieces requires that the soldier must watch it up close and personal. The blood lust will die very quickly.
Two, no bombers, no napalm, no industrial mills belching smoke into the air 24/7, just me, a waterstone and the sweat of my brow--which doesn't cause much of a carbon footprint, BTW. You can kill all you want, and you don't have to worry about global warming.
Heck, there are enough swords, axes, knives and cleavers right now on existing shelves. No need to gear up production. And with war as a bad investment, the robber barons will lose interest mighty quick.
In fact, in killing off potential clients, the industrialists might lobby for peace. Now, wouldn't that be a sight.
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Post by Richard on Jun 19, 2012 13:08:53 GMT -5
As a knife salesman and sharpener, I have a suggestion. All wars must be fought with edged weapons only. Not only would that be good for my business, but you could still kill all of the enemy combatants you wished. You'd just to it at a slower rate, allowing more time for peace talks. There are other considerations. One, chopping someone up into teeny pieces requires that the soldier must watch it up close and personal. The blood lust will die very quickly. Two, no bombers, no napalm, no industrial mills belching smoke into the air 24/7, just me, a waterstone and the sweat of my brow--which doesn't cause much of a carbon footprint, BTW. You can kill all you want, and you don't have to worry about global warming. Heck, there are enough swords, axes, knives and cleavers right now on existing shelves. No need to gear up production. And with war as a bad investment, the robber barons will lose interest mighty quick. In fact, in killing off potential clients, the industrialists might lobby for peace. Now, wouldn't that be a sight. "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." -Albert Einstein You might have to wait for one more. It certainly would have a more personal impact if people had to see a more 'up-close' perspective of war. Soldiers are trained to attack 'targets' not individuals. And much of the combat today is through electronic devices out of harms way through a video screen.
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Post by Lily on Jun 19, 2012 15:40:34 GMT -5
In the 70's they were clamoring about an ice age. When that went to the wayside, they turned to global warming. Global warming and another ice age, sound like a contradiction in terms, but they're actually not. The polar ice caps in both the Arctic and Antarctica are indeed melting. This may be due to natural causes (which I doubt), human activity, or a bit of both. But the reality is that if it continues to escalate we will see coastal regions under water in much the same way as New Orleans was after Katrina. This will destroy the gulf stream, which keeps temperatures moderate, and the world will be pitched into another ice age. We're seeing the beginnings of that already in European countries that used to have very little snow. But for the past few years they've been buried in one snow storm after another. Heathrow Airport was so badly snowed in last winter, it was closed down for a week! "Arctic sea ice has melted to a level not recorded since satellite observations started in 1972 – and almost certainly not experienced for at least 8,000 years, say polar scientists." www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/sep/11/arctic-ice-melting-at-fastest-pace
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Post by Lily on Jun 19, 2012 15:53:55 GMT -5
I believe that wars spring from basic human biology; it's all part of the self-preservation instinct. And heck, you only have to watch the six o-clock news, people are aggressive and violent. Then when you add the profit motive as well....
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Post by Lily on Jun 19, 2012 16:23:44 GMT -5
Soldiers are trained to attack 'targets' not individuals. And much of the combat today is through electronic devices out of harms way through a video screen. Distancing oneself and dehumanising the enemy, by villainizing him as an unspeakable monster, makes it that much easier to slaughter him wholesale. In fact, it's patriotic and downright righteous to do so. A classic case of the bad guy versus the good guy phenomenon.
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Post by Richard on Jun 20, 2012 3:32:00 GMT -5
In the 70's they were clamoring about an ice age. When that went to the wayside, they turned to global warming. Global warming and another ice age, sound like a contradiction in terms, but they're actually not. The polar ice caps in both the Arctic and Antarctica are indeed melting. This may be due to natural causes (which I doubt), human activity, or a bit of both. But the reality is that if it continues to escalate we will see coastal regions under water in much the same way as New Orleans was after Katrina. This will destroy the gulf stream, which keeps temperatures moderate, and the world will be pitched into another ice age. We're seeing the beginnings of that already in European countries that used to have very little snow. But for the past few years they've been buried in one snow storm after another. Heathrow Airport was so badly snowed in last winter, it was closed down for a week! "Arctic sea ice has melted to a level not recorded since satellite observations started in 1972 – and almost certainly not experienced for at least 8,000 years, say polar scientists." www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/sep/11/arctic-ice-melting-at-fastest-paceThey are talking about Arctic...North. The Antarctic has been increasing. This is a good article dealing with the time issue, and the fact that climate change has existed since there has been a climate. www.americanthinker.com/2009/12/emails_schmeemails_look_at_the.htmlThe thing is, I can find scientists and articles that profess growth, just like I can find those that say shrinkage. I look at motive for reporting. When politicians and activists are sounding off about it, you can usually bank on the opposite of what they are saying. You also have to consider how it is being presented. What time of year are the measurements being compared to? Summer to summer? Or, summer to winter? And so on. Just knowing that someone like Al Gore is a driving force behind this issue is enough to let people know it is a sham.
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