Lily
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Post by Lily on Aug 27, 2011 11:50:10 GMT -5
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Post by Lily on Aug 27, 2011 13:15:25 GMT -5
Although the cop was clearly wrong in not charging this woman with assault, you have to see it from his point of view as well. Given the politically correct climate in Canada, he would have been immediately labelled an "Islamophobic" and a "racist." There goes any chance of promotion. Plus, he and his family could have become the target of radical Muslim groups. So strictly in the interests of self preservation, he did the right thing. Western society has changed, and not for the better. It's all very sad.
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Richard
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Post by Richard on Aug 27, 2011 13:28:41 GMT -5
I would suggest when someone is assaulted, feel free to return the favor. Hijab or no Hijab.
I get tired of reverse, and special discrimination. If someone cannot adapt to the culture of the area they live in, then return to what is acceptable to you. I spent about half a year in Saudi Arabia. It was nice to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there, or live like they do, nor would I want to try to impose my culture on them.
Believe me, there is zero tolerance for non-Islamic behavior in Sharia run countries. The Church is the State, and they don't fall all over themselves apologizing for any wrong behavior they commit on who they see as infidels.
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charlotte
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Post by charlotte on Aug 27, 2011 13:37:23 GMT -5
To be fair it looks like the lady asked him to stop taking pictures of her and he continued. There seems to be evidence he had taken photographs of them two weeks earlier as well.
Even the Daily Mail could not present this as if the journalist was 100% innocent. I don't Canadian Law but under Scots Law they could get creative and charge him as well, it would certainly fit under Breach of the Peace.
Looks like the officer may have just not charged either parties in a tit-for-tat incident.
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Richard
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Post by Richard on Aug 27, 2011 13:50:43 GMT -5
To be fair it looks like the lady asked him to stop taking pictures of her and he continued. There seems to be evidence he had taken photographs of them two weeks earlier as well. Even the Daily Mail could not present this as if the journalist was 100% innocent. I don't Canadian Law but under Scots Law they could get creative and charge him as well, it would certainly fit under Breach of the Peace. Looks like the officer may have just not charged either parties in a tit-for-tat incident. “Look, if I had been there two weeks prior, I’d have owned up to that,” he added. “After all, let’s keep in mind there is nothing illegal about taking photos in a public square.” Assault is assault.
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Lily
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Post by Lily on Aug 27, 2011 14:02:01 GMT -5
Yes! And assault includes any sort of aggressive "touching" of the person or his possessions. She had no right to try and wrest the camera away from him, let alone punch him. She lives in a Western country, where it is not unlawful to take photographs in a public square. Let's not start blaming the journalist here. He is the victim. In fact, we all are. We've lost our most basic rights and freedoms, and all in the name of political correctness, which bends over backwards to accomodate those from a different culture. I don't blame the immigrants for this, I blame the politicians. Their self-serving agendas have turned us into second-class citizens in our own countries.
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Post by Lily on Aug 27, 2011 14:18:57 GMT -5
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Post by Lily on Aug 27, 2011 14:57:24 GMT -5
Kudos here to the Syrian couple who saw what happened and came forward immediately as witnesses. Their testimony is particularly invaluable as they speak Arabic, and know exactly what was said, and will testify to this. But the officers on the scene chose to ignore them also. There is something very rotten here, and it has nothing to do with Denmark! ;D
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roxy
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Post by roxy on Aug 27, 2011 15:27:41 GMT -5
Oh man... but if he'd punched her in the face he'd still be in jail...don;t you just luv double standards?
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Lily
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Post by Lily on Aug 27, 2011 16:04:39 GMT -5
To be fair it looks like the lady asked him to stop taking pictures of her and he continued. There seems to be evidence he had taken photographs of them two weeks earlier as well. Even the Daily Mail could not present this as if the journalist was 100% innocent. I don't Canadian Law but under Scots Law they could get creative and charge him as well, it would certainly fit under Breach of the Peace. Looks like the officer may have just not charged either parties in a tit-for-tat incident. Even if the journalist did set out to create this type of incident -- and I doubt that, he'd hardly have exposed his young child to such an upsetting experience -- it still doesn't excuse this woman's behaviour. The point remains she had no right to grab his camera and punch him in the face. There is no tit-for-tat involved here. It was a clearcut case of assault. And there is even a Muslim couple who witnessed the incident and who endorse the journalist's version of events. The law must apply to everyone equally. This incident gives this concept a very black eye. (No pun intended ;D
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raemorgan
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Post by raemorgan on Aug 27, 2011 16:28:03 GMT -5
No matter what the provocation its still illegal to hit someone. The only way it isn't is if you're doing it in self defence because they're hitting you.
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Lily
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Post by Lily on Aug 27, 2011 16:36:04 GMT -5
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Post by jacklawson on Aug 27, 2011 16:56:26 GMT -5
This sets a dangerous precedent -- Muslims can now assault the "infidel" and get away with it -- not cool.
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Post by Lily on Aug 27, 2011 17:09:01 GMT -5
Does anyone doubt that if this had been a non Muslim who punched this guy, s/he would have been charged with assault in a heartbeat. I do so value fair play -- the same rules applying to all -- and this is a direct antithesis of that. I do hope justice prevails and the officers involved are disciplined accordingly, and the woman charged with assault. Anything less makes a complete and utter mockery of our justice system.
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Post by dervish on Aug 27, 2011 18:06:01 GMT -5
She had no right to hit him but he should have stopped taking her photo when she asked him to. What he did was invasive.
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