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Post by Lily on Jul 22, 2012 22:31:34 GMT -5
"Jacque Montgomery, a spokeswoman for the University of Colorado medical school, said that police have told the school to not talk about Holmes. The university also took down the website for its graduate neuroscience program on Saturday. Dan Keeney, president of DPK Public Relations in Dallas, said asking for silence from university employees because of a police investigation was appropriate, but taking down the website was "indefensible" for a publicly funded university unless the school believed it contained inaccurate information relating to the program. "It's disappointing to hear that they would take that action because it suggests that it's not in the public's interest to have access to that information and I think it is in the public's interest," he said." Read more: www.theprovince.com/news/After+baffling+midnight+movie+shootings+sadness+shock+search+clues/6970065/story.html#ixzz21PeSekiBThat's odd. I wonder why the university took the web page down? Anyway, it can still be accessed via the Google cache: www.colorado.edu/neuroscienceprogram/
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Post by Lily on Jul 23, 2012 15:57:43 GMT -5
This guy hardly looks normal, does he? If anybody looks crazy it's him. Of course, the legal definition of insanity is different from a medical one. And in Colorado it's a very difficult defence to have accepted. "On the defense side, Professor Filler says the insanity defense will certainly be under consideration. But, he notes, Colorado is one of the tougher states in terms of using what is often a controversial defense. The Colorado insanity defense clause has two requirements, he says. First, the defendant must have been suffering from a genuine mental illness at the time of the crime. “It cannot be something that was drug-induced,” for example, he notes. Next, he says the defendant must be able to know right from wrong. “This is a very tough standard because even in the case of extremely mentally ill individuals, most would know that picking up a gun and shooting people in a movie theater was not a right thing to do,” he says." www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2012/0723/Colorado-shooting-No-show-of-emotion-as-suspect-appears-in-court
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Post by BlueLotus on Jul 23, 2012 16:12:19 GMT -5
"That's odd. I wonder why the university took the web page down? Anyway, it can still be accessed via the Google cache:"
I think they took it down because leaving him up there would hurt a lot of people and anger many others... Not sure just my thoughts, were it my school I'd want him removed from everything too. In no way should his name be allowed to taint those who do right.
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Post by Lily on Jul 23, 2012 16:22:28 GMT -5
"That's odd. I wonder why the university took the web page down? Anyway, it can still be accessed via the Google cache:" I think they took it down because leaving him up there would hurt a lot of people and anger many others... Not sure just my thoughts, were it my school I'd want him removed from everything too. In no way should his name be allowed to taint those who do right. Everyone at the university was at terrible risk from this guy. He could just as easily have had his mass shooting there. Yet I don't see any way to prevent this sort of nightmare from happening. Holmes was a good student, quiet and well behaved, who could possibly have guessed what he was planning?
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Post by Richard on Jul 23, 2012 18:02:10 GMT -5
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Post by Lily on Jul 23, 2012 18:18:49 GMT -5
"There is already conjecture that James Holmes may have been involved in mind-altering neuroscience research and ended up becoming involved at a depth he never anticipated. His actions clearly show a strange detachment from reality, indicating he was not in his right mind. That can only typically be accomplished through drugs, hypnosis or trauma (and sometimes all three)." I find this particularly interesting, and it would certainly explain why the university has removed the neuroscience page, and is refusing to speak to the media. If the university sponsored such research, they would be culpable for the horrific event that followed. Think Dr. Frankenstein and the monster he created. And it's undeniable that Holmes looks totally dazed and out-of-whack. It just seems too far fetched to believe that a quiet and brilliant medical student, would suddenly go bananas and do something like this. There almost has to be a missing link somewhere, and the university might know what it is. Another point that bothers me is the sophisticated booby trapping of his apartment. Where did Holmes get the expertise on explosives to be able to do something like that? Golly, those poor neighbours of his, little did they know what danger they were in.
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Post by BlueLotus on Jul 23, 2012 18:39:38 GMT -5
I can't say that I think he was "out of his mind" because he did have the presence of mind to not only surrender with out a fight, but also to warn the police about the explosive devices... That being said who knows what he was thinking or not thinking at the time. I feel badly for the people this has touched and I hope the courts have the good sense to remove him from the earth Post Haste! No allowing him to languish in prison for many years on the tax payers dime. Darwin his body, donate it to science if you like and call it a day. I think part of the reason we see more and more of these incidents is that we allow these idiots to keep breeding, we medicate everyone and then turn them back out into society where they pass along their brand of crazy to the next generation... Sad really. People like this need to be put in homes long before it gets to this point. His parents said something like 'you have the right guy' when they were told about what happened, so my question is if they knew he was capable of doing something like this why had they never spoke up before? It can't be something that happened over night. Another thought as to the why we see more of this type of thing is that parents are allowing the TV to raise their kids... With both parents working no one is watching the kids. This is perhaps why I have decided to be a stay at home mother, sure I work, but I care for my family first, work comes second.
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Post by Lily on Jul 23, 2012 19:38:12 GMT -5
"Arlene Holmes, the mother of Colorado theater shooting suspect James Holmes, has suggested that ABC News mischaracterized her when it reported that her initial statement to the reporter, "you have the right person," was a reference to her son. "This statement is to clarify a statement made by ABC media. I was awakened by a call from a reporter by ABC on July 20 about 5:45 in the morning. I did not know anything about a shooting in Aurora at that time," Holmes said in a statement this afternoon, read to the national press by attorney Lisa Damiani. "He asked if I was Arlene Holmes and if my son was James Holmes who lives in Aurora, Colorado. I answered yes, you have the right person. I was referring to myself."" www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/07/holmes-mother-suggests-abc-news-mischaracterized-her-129835.htmlNow this makes sense. I never could understand his mother saying "you have the right person" meaning Holmes, implying as it does that she wasn't surprised by the horrific news, and was even expecting it. This "mistake" by ABC News, has caused this woman to be pilloried and criticised for not alerting the authorities about her son. Of course, when the media is on a feeding frenzy like this, truth ceases to be a priority.
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Post by Richard on Jul 23, 2012 19:42:28 GMT -5
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Post by Richard on Jul 23, 2012 19:46:55 GMT -5
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Post by Lily on Jul 23, 2012 19:52:48 GMT -5
There's no denying that. But statistics are forgotten when a tragedy of this magnitude occurs. I can understand that it would be a weird and scary feeling going to a midnight showing of this movie, even although, statistically speaking, it's quite safe. Let's hope that to make it even safer, theatres will provide security for their patrons. Even just one armed security guard would help to build confidence and make a world of difference.
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Post by Lily on Jul 23, 2012 19:55:44 GMT -5
I can't say I'm surprised about this. Given the logistics, Holmes was almost bound to have some sort of help. It seems unlikely that he acted alone.
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Post by Lily on Jul 23, 2012 21:02:33 GMT -5
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Post by greenwriter on Jul 23, 2012 22:09:58 GMT -5
Now we get the conspiracy theories heaped on top of the blaming anybody but the b**tard responsible for this. I think he acted alone.
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Post by BlueLotus on Jul 24, 2012 0:44:51 GMT -5
I seen the movie on sat night... The late show and I litteraly flinched everytime someone got up. I do worry about copy cat types... Can't help it.
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